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Daylight Saving [May. 17th, 2009|03:43 pm]
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I have two cents and I want to spend it.

While I kind of like daylight saving, realistically, I'm not tired to it and don't see any point to it in the modern world, beyond being part of an outdated tradition.

To say that it saves on lighting costs or power in the evenings is part of a false economy - many people have to get up quite early for work and so the lights go during the dark mornings when they might not when running on normal time. Most studies have shown that any difference to power usage is negligible. And if you're so concerned with power usage, why not back a push for air conditioners not to be used until the temperature passes 27 degrees outside? That'd surely save some power.*

Some studies claim that it reduces road accidents, others say that's not so. But if you're really concerned with lowering the road toll, why wouldn't you want the hour's difference all year round? Or better yet, just lower the speed limit to 30kph, and set the allowable blood alcohol level to zero for drivers.

As for the extra hour of daylight allowing people more leisure time outside. Well, maybe it does, but in this day and age, the vast majority of people with more leisure time tend to spend it inside in front of the telly or the computer.

With the air conditioning going.

And why is it that every time daylight savings loses out in WA, people complain that the 'no' voters aren't giving it a chance, and are behind the times? With the most recent voting, the majority of WA folks decided that it didn't work for them after a three year trial. As for being behind the times, no one was interested in the original concept of daylight saving for twenty years, until it was finally started during the first World War to try and save coal.

It was an attempt to save resources for a war fought nearly one hundred years ago.

As to the old chestnut of bringing WA more into line with the Eastern States, well WA will still be two hours out the rest of the year. Why don't we instead go with one of the original suggestions for Australian time zones - the entire country runs on Adelaide time. Then it'd be noon in Melbourne, Adelaide, and Perth all at the same time!

So, anyway, that's that off my chest.

Discuss. Rant. But try to be polite to one another, eh?

* Actually, if I had my way, aircon would not be allowed to be used until it was 30-35 outside. But that's me.

[User Picture]From: fuschia17
2009-05-17 07:57 am (UTC)
I hate daylight savings, I think it is a waste of time and is basically stupid.

I want a consistent time. It is what it is - it shouldn't be any different in summer than winter. I resent the lost hour for the now freaking whole six months, and then I resent the fact that when it stops we have to work an hour "longer".

I have an internal body clock and I find daylight savings really knocks around my system.
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[User Picture]From: fuschia17
2009-05-17 09:33 pm (UTC)
Are you assuming I'm a guy? Cause I can assure you that I am not! Grin.

Meh. I hate daylight savings.
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[User Picture]From: kitling
2009-05-17 09:24 am (UTC)
I like my extra hour of sun after work :)
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2009-05-18 04:26 am (UTC)
I rather like all the daylight as well, but I hate the change back and forth rather a lot.
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[User Picture]From: ariaflame
2009-05-17 03:45 pm (UTC)
Thank you for so clearly stating a large chunk of my reasons for voting no.
It is a little sad to see the reactions of some people whose necessities were different.

The arguments I'm seeing are now drifting towards late-night trading, which is only weakly connected to daylight savings. My opinions there are less strong, though being actually moved more to no by some of the yay-sayers suggestion that we are living in the dark ages by not having late or even 24 hour shops. Whether or not our population base can support it.
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[User Picture]From: stephen_dedman
2009-05-18 02:45 am (UTC)
The connection hadn't occurred to me until a couple of months ago, when I was walking through the CBD at about 6.15 pm in broad daylight and almost nothing was open (in fact, there were already nuns in Forrest Place giving out free coffee or soup, on the assumption that anyone still in the city at that hour must be homeless), and I wondered whether this was a deliberate ploy for longer trading hours.

To be fair, the pubs are always busy when I leave the shop at about the same hour. It's just the mall area that resembles a ghost town.
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[User Picture]From: tikiwanderer
2009-05-18 03:12 am (UTC)
I still hold that daylight savings knocks around the morning people more than it disadvatages the night people. Especially in WA, where summer nights often aren't pleasant until after dark, unless you're lucky enough to live within reach of the Doctor on the days it blows. I like is_apposite's suggestion once that daylight savings in WA sould go the other direction so that night came an hour earlier in summer. I also like artisanat's recent comment that the people who suffer from daylight savings suffer more than the people who suffer from not daylight savings.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2009-05-18 04:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, I've always rather liked the suggestion of moving it in the other direction for Perth. And yes, for the people who have a problem with the changeover, they struggle, whereas if there's no change, no-one really suffers.

While this doesn't seem to effect us so much with Lex, I've heard a number of parents say their children, babies through to school years, don't deal well with the change in routine.
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[User Picture]From: wolflullaby
2009-05-18 05:14 am (UTC)
I so agree with this...except for the bit about not putting aircons on until 30-35! My body and mind ceases to function above 30. :P

But yeah, good points well said. ;)
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2009-05-18 05:27 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's why I said 27 in the main part of the post. Most people would look at 30-35 and go "too high!" but 27 doesn't seem so bad.

In summer, if I know it's going to be a 40+ degree day, I close all the doors, draw the curtains, etc. and keep half an eye on the temperature inside and outside. As soon as temp inside starts to get close to outside, I open everything up to let the air flow through.

If the day is only 35-37, I just leave everything open - doors, windows, etc. Lex coped with the summer heat fine. Kept an eye on him, made sure to keep his fluids up, but no problems at all.
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[User Picture]From: purrdence
2009-05-19 12:12 am (UTC)
I saw a chart of the Perth metro area and which areas voted what. All the areas that voted 'yes' were right on the coast, where it cools down quicker, due to the Freo Doctor. Also, since those are mainly the well-off suburbs, I suspect they have the means to enjoy the beachfront suburb lifestyle as well.

Every other area were majority 'no' areas, getting more so the further away from the coast one got.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2009-05-19 12:21 am (UTC)
That's really interesting.

One of the things I dislike about daylight savings is the way it stuffs farmers about. Making life harder for a primary industry that provides food for the majority always seems unfair to me.

BTW OT, Roadshow has a Doctor Who sale coming up, so I'll hold off and we should be able to get you Dalek Invasion a bit cheaper.
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From: (Anonymous)
2009-05-19 01:03 am (UTC)
OooOooo :)In that case, could you keep an eye out for the Web Planet, Tomb of the Cybermen and Fang Rock as well please?
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[User Picture]From: purrdence
2009-05-19 01:33 am (UTC)
Gah, Livejournal logged me out...
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2009-05-19 05:50 am (UTC)
Guessed it was you :)

Sale starts in June. No idea how much of a reduction they'll be giving, may only be a couple of dollars, will let you know prices once I have them.
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[User Picture]From: generalissimo_k
2009-05-20 01:06 pm (UTC)
I liked a few comments in one of the papers.. "If we vote yes, we would never get the chance to ever decide no in the future", and "that for many, it was resentment at the waste of money in running three referendums, and No choice in having the trial", After so much resentment..
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