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Spokesman for good-natured wankers Australia-wide [Feb. 14th, 2008|02:48 pm]
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Just had a phone call. I may be doing another interview on being a sperm donor for The Australian. I feel quite cheery and chuffed about this.

The only sad side is that the journalist is from Sydney. Why is that a sad side? I've been asked because they couldn't find anyone in Sydney willing or able to do it.

Which isn't surprising - last I heard there were five active sperm donors in the whole of NSW.

[User Picture]From: mortonhall
2008-02-14 03:56 am (UTC)

interesting ramifications when you think about there being only 5 active sperm donors in Sydney.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-02-14 04:06 am (UTC)
Not Sydney, New South Wales. That's why some fertility clinics in NSW have five-year waiting lists. Albury gets a lot of people from Victoria for various reasons, too. They've cut off at something like 150 people, so now Canberra is getting the overflow.

Given that fertility is crashing across the world, and healthy couple are having trouble conceiving, they're going to have to make some major changes. Too many guys don't want the kids they helped create tracking them down in 18 years.
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[User Picture]From: vegetus
2008-02-14 04:55 am (UTC)
Or they could make adoption a better option. There are children in orphanages or in foster care that need love to in this world.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-02-14 05:16 am (UTC)
The issues there are threefold.

Most people want children from a young age, and there just aren't many of those any more.

Most older kids have some fairly serious issues that many people aren't willing to take on. That's not the fault of either the kids or the adults wanting kids, it's just one of the sad facts of life. Some of these kids have been seriously messed up, and some people don't feel they can take that burden.

And the way the laws work, once you reach a certain age it gets really hard to adopt. So if you've spent years trying, had no luck, then decided to adopt, it may be too late. Don't know if it's the same for fostering or not.

My favourite Aunt took in a lot of foster kids over the years. Had a fair mix of horror stories and triumphs. One of the kids, now an adult with a family of his own, keeps in contact with her.
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[User Picture]From: capnoblivious
2008-02-14 05:52 am (UTC)
Too many guys don't want the kids they helped create tracking them down in 18 years.

I really don't understand this attitude. From my point of view, that's the best bit, and I'd be disappointed if the kid didn't at least express curiosity.
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[User Picture]From: kaths
2008-02-14 06:10 am (UTC)
I think it's particularly sad when the child doesn't have a chance to track down their biological father. It should be totally up to them as to what contact they have, but how horrible when they want to and can't get any info because it was a 'anonymous donor' situation, like it is so much in the US. Particularly when medical issues come up where a medical history could be useful.

I chose a donor who seemed very open to contact, so that at least the child has a good option in the future.
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[User Picture]From: mortonhall
2008-02-14 07:20 am (UTC)
Sydney/NSW - doesn't mean a lot of difference to me :)

I was actually considering the genetic ramifications of having a small number of sperm donors available.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-02-14 07:38 am (UTC)
I was think five people in Sydney doesn't sound like much, but it's not absolutely awful. Five people in NSW is far worse.

Well, how's this for a scary figure - forgetting my demon-spawn that shazgirl is currently carrying, I may father anywhere up to twenty kids!

If that happens I shall have to move my LJ to a new one called Jizzmaster!
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[User Picture]From: kaths
2008-02-14 04:33 am (UTC)
They have a 'family limit', so it's not like in the US where some donors can have huge numbers of offspring.

I think Vic is in a better situation because the laws on identification have always been more open here, so when the laws changes around Australia, they didn't lose a lot of their donors. Or something like that.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-02-14 05:08 am (UTC)
Just had confirmation from the head of the Sydney unit, who was chatting to me to be sure I was up for the interview. Three active donors, two waiting to come out of the quarantine period for all of NSW.

A lot of Victorians actually use Albury because for various reasons they have trouble in Vic, due to the laws. I think (I may be wrong) it's easier for lesbian couples and single mothers to get IVF outside Vic.

And I had to pass on the wording used by the chap I spoke to - The single mothers are draining the sperm banks dry - it's a disconcerting mental image, that one!
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[User Picture]From: kaths
2008-02-14 05:48 am (UTC)
Yep, in Vic lesbians and singles can only have access if they qualify for IVF due to fertility problems, or IUI (syringe method) due to ovulation problems. Hence so many going to Albury. Although that'll change in about 6 months as the law is changing.

People I've heard talk about the issue say they don't think the changes in Vic will make much difference (ie draining the sperm banks dry) because with the increase in use of ICSI (injecting a sperm into the egg), particularly with it now getting a Medicare rebate number, less couples need donor sperm, so there's more to go around, so to speak.

In terms of NSW, if there's only 3 active donors and 2 waiting, then nobody can actually be draining it dry, there's nothing to drain! Qld doesn't seem to have the same kind of waiting lists, and I didn't have to wait in VIC. Sounds like they need to do a better recruiting job.

The guy you spoke to probably read this: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23077288-2,00.html


Okay, I've just looked up the info I have access to.
Canberra fertility only have a couple of local donors. Monash Qld have about 15 donors, Monash Vic have 20. Monash seems to have a fair amount overall and share it amongst their various clinics in Aust.

IVF Australia have an 18 month waiting list. It's been said that they're the only ones inS ydney with donor sperm, but Sydney IVF have a few with a 6 month waiting list.

Some clinics import from the US (more info, but more expensive), eg Fertility First and Fertility East in NSW (although apparently they have a couple of local donors).

Only 2 WA clinics have donors, and they have a long waiting list. SA has a few but only for IVF, not IUI. TAS is pretty limited.

All this changes from month to month as they use up donor sperm and gain new, and the demand varies, but it gives a vague idea.

Another factor which will impact is that I think they're reducing the family limit from 10 to 5. Not sure if it's per state or not - didn't you find something out about that?
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[User Picture]From: damienps
2008-02-14 06:23 am (UTC)
I did the sperm donor thing when I was at Uni in Tassie. They were advertising in the Uni Newspaper. 18 years ago I got a about $120 for wanking.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-02-14 06:28 am (UTC)
They actually can't pay you any more, though they are allowed to give you money to cover expenses, like if you've taken a taxi, or had to have time off work.
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[User Picture]From: mireille21
2008-02-14 07:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, I read the thing about there being only 5 donors as well, which is just mindboggling! Surely there are more people out there who are willing and able? Maybe it just hasn't been suggested to them yet.
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[User Picture]From: kaths
2008-02-14 08:16 am (UTC)
Until they see the interview with Danny :)

Danny, did you ever get a copy of the other one you did?
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