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Scary Movie 4 [Aug. 30th, 2008|10:07 pm]
dalekboy
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I had never seen any of the Scary Movies, and happened to notice in the paper that one was on TV tonight. So I watched it. Well, half of it.

It was exactly what I had expected - bland, stupid, telegraphed American humour with its only clever moments being more accidental than planned. Maybe I would have enjoyed it more if it had had better actors. While the writing hadn't improved, the scenes with Leslie Neilson were by far the funniest.

They weren't hugely funny, they were just the funniest in the film.

I stayed watching past where I wanted to turn off, but just after the blind girl hit the guy in the knackers with her stick, I turned the TV off.

Now I know why I had never bothered previously with the series, and I need never bother again.
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[User Picture]From: ariaflame
2008-08-30 12:37 pm (UTC)
I hadn't thought I'd bother. And now I definitely won't. I'm thinking it's an SBS night for me.

Here's hoping the soup I'm making works. I've had to make some modifications to the recipe for this try at least as noone I talked to knew where to get any cheesecloth for the bouquet garni and as for kitchen string hah! There's no demand apparently.

Still. We'll see what I get.


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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-30 01:27 pm (UTC)
It takes a lot for me to turn off a movie, with the intention of never finishing it. I can't remember the last time I did that, but it would have to have been years ago.

Good luck in the kitchen!
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[User Picture]From: shazgirl
2008-08-30 02:48 pm (UTC)
Perhaps I should have said that I just use cotton to tie the bouquet garni together rather than kitchen string (which I don't have either). I have a piece of cheesecloth I use for straining some things but for the bouquet garni I actually have a piece of thin material which I can't remember the name of because I think that I got that one from a different recipe book at the time. Substitutions should be fine. The main reasoning behind tying it together with a piece of cloth and string is that if it is all held together you don't have to fish it all out later and possibly miss some and end up with hard twigs of thyme or slimy stalks of parsley in your soup.
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[User Picture]From: ariaflame
2008-08-30 04:31 pm (UTC)
Since I didn't actually have fresh herbs anyway the only thing that was large enough to fish out was the bay leaf and it wasn't tied to anything.

I'm not a huge parsley fan also. Though that's more if I'm tasting it direct rather than as a flavouring. So I ended up using the bay leaf and some italian herbs for the flavouring. Of course by the time it was finished I had had dinner, but it is ready for tomorrow now. (And soups usually taste better next day). I'll let you know how it went.
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[User Picture]From: arcadiagt5
2008-08-30 12:45 pm (UTC)
I was going to say don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

But then I noticed the tag which you've only used once before (Yes, I checked) so I guess you didn't hold back... :)
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-30 01:32 pm (UTC)
As I commented above, it takes a hell of a lot to make me turn off a film.

Scary Movie 4 is exactly the sort of film that got me so deeply immersed in horror movies.

I love comedies, ands will happily watch them from all sorts of countries. During the 80's I discovered that renting comedies from the video library was more often than not a rather sad affair.

So i started watching horror films. If you rented a good one, great. If you copped a bad one, it was at least usually funny in its awfulness.

Rent a bad comedy, you don't get to laugh.
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[User Picture]From: mondyboy
2008-08-30 12:51 pm (UTC)
Epic Movie, by the same people, is utter, utter dross.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-30 01:25 pm (UTC)
Well there's a shock! :)

It's bad when The Lucy Show and Gilligan's Island are starting to look like works of subtle brillance by comparison.
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From: mikestuchbery
2008-08-30 12:51 pm (UTC)
Hey, you put down a lot of wonderful material when you lump this in the rest of American comedy.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-30 01:22 pm (UTC)
There is a predominant style of US comedy that works on being safe and comfortable even when it's meant to be edgy. The safey and comfort comes from repeated gags, telegraphed humour, stereotypical characters that are stupid in obvious ways, laughing at the embarrassment of others, etc. Nothing to surprise or challenge the audience.

I'm not saying that other countries don't use these ideas for their comedies, but the US tends to overuse them constantly. Plus we get so much of the worthless drivel US comedies pumped out onto Aussie TV, it's hard not to feel it's all the same.

I'd love to be able to say the Aussie TV comedy scene is better, but there's nothing I've seen in recent times worth watching. Clever comedy is a rare and endangered beast in many countries.

While the vast majority of US comedy is lowest-common denomiator dross, Scary Movie 4 panders to and barely achieves that level.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-30 01:37 pm (UTC)
btw, I'm not saying you're wrong about the good material out there. There is good US comedy out there, but to find it without a guide, one has to wade neck deep in manure.

It's rather sad when you look back at some of the great comedy films that the country has produced, that Scary Movie is popular enough to have so many sequels.
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[User Picture]From: purrdence
2008-08-30 03:14 pm (UTC)
There's an awful lot of 13 year olds with too much cash out there...
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[User Picture]From: leecetheartist
2008-08-30 03:46 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't judge a franchise by the 4th movie in it.

Are there any *good* 4th movies in franchises?

Not that I've seen *any* of them, I don't watch horror movies so the references, clever or not, just wouldn't work for me, it just seems a little harsh.

Pity, I was hoping 'Epic Movie' would be worth while.

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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-08-31 01:31 am (UTC)
I wouldn't judge a franchise by the 4th movie in it.
Which is very fair, most series of films start to struggle more with each subsequent sequel.

However, I do think that the adverts for the Scary Movie series are an accurate portrayal of what to expect, given that most film companies would put a range of their funniest jokes in the trailers. And none of the previous films got my interest with their trailers, either.

I have more to say on this, but I'll do it in a post. Much as I love my son, it's kind of nice to have something else to waffle on about :)


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[User Picture]From: magnapops
2008-08-31 02:23 am (UTC)
Ordinarily I would agree, But this stuff is so lame that you can feel it oozing out of your head.

It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't blatantly obvious what the joke coming up was.

If you really want to see something really awful. Date movie. The concept of making a spoof of romantic comedies is just odd. Really just run away. Counting carpet fibers is a better use of your time.
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[User Picture]From: kattilz
2008-08-31 01:32 am (UTC)

scary movie 4

Danny "WHAZ UP!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I liked the first two then the other two were just to watch when I am feeling brain dead.
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[User Picture]From: angriest
2008-08-31 03:17 am (UTC)
There was a joke in the original issue of Video Store Clerk (the ghost-face killer from Scream hiding in the store taunting the Clerk by mobile when it's really obvious where he is) that was used in Scary Movie as well, which is fine because it was an obvious gag to make.

Downside was that when we went to make the TV pilot I couldn't use my own joke, because it had been in a successful movie - even though I had thought of the joke before them.

I've seen, somehow, Scary Movie 1 through 3 and they are uniformly awful.
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From: duntov_475hp
2008-09-01 03:28 am (UTC)
I agree, thing is that same type of humor is also in so many of our commercials. And yet another wreck of a movie like that is on the way.
Superhero Movie I kind of liked. It wasn't a great movie, but there were a few scenes I laughed pretty hard at.
Actually there has been a serious lack of comedies I could enjoy. Most are televised programs, and most of those are cartoons.
I think scriptwriters have been watching too much Spongebob Squarepants.
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[User Picture]From: dalekboy
2008-09-01 06:32 am (UTC)
I've never been a big fan of tit and bum humour, though some is okay. I'm not foud of humour about bodily wastes, but some works. Racist, sexist, humour is usually lowest common denominator, but again, some wome works. Jokes at the expense of the mentally or physically handicapped, are hard to get right, but sometimes it's done well.

I think political correctness is a quiet evil, but most of these folks doing 'edgy' and 'dangerous' humour are just relying on shock value for laughs, rather than actually coming up with anything clever or funny. Twenty/thirty years ago, they would have used the word 'fuck' a lot, because that would get a nervous laugh.

I love South Park. When it's good it can handle any subject and most of the time, do it well. Problem is, I think the success of South Park is part of the reason for the new glut of Un-PC humour. The wannabes are targeting the same groups, but without the wit and insight.
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From: duntov_475hp
2008-09-01 06:57 am (UTC)
I agree about political correctness, and it's made life where I work difficult to tolerate at times. Political correctness tends to be little more than an excuse people use to treat others like crap.

Just about anything makes me laugh if done right (Though laughing does come hard)
The humor I get into is stupid people being stupid. I'm not talking like Jackass because they're trying to be stupid. Professional stupidity doesn't seem to work. Amatuer stupidity on the other hand...
Chris Farley movies, some Adam Sandler movies, and so on. Unexpected silliness in otherwise serious movies gets me well, too. Like in Gone in 60 Seconds when they're stealing the Jaguar and someone tried to carjack the car theives, promptly getting knocked out. "Anyone can just pull a knife and jack a ride! Boy... you need a role model."
South Park does do a good job with the humor, though it seems a bit stale these days.
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